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US President Joe Biden

Joe Biden has always regarded two places as home – Ireland and Delaware.

When he leaves the White House in a matter of months he will head to the latter, and in that state there is some anger at the way he lost his chance to serve a second term as President.

Yet even his supporters accept that the 81-year-old was showing his age when his Democratic Party colleagues told him it was time to leave the race.

“I think it would have run him into the ground for sure, to have a campaign to try to come up above the (polling) numbers that have been so horrible for the whole time he has been in office,” says Kathy Magner.

Kathy Magner with short blonde hair standing in front of a bookcase. She is wearing a grey top and a silver necklace.

Kathy Magner’s father worked with Biden’s dad 50 years ago

Kathy Magner’s father worked with Biden’s dad 50 years ago and she has known him for decades.

“I think what time he has left after the presidency, he can enjoy it knowing he did the best he could,” she says.

Kathy helps run Limestone Presbyterian Church in Wilmington and one of her jobs is to put up a message with meaning on a sign at the front of the building.

Getty Images A street view of eleven cars travelling through traffic lights on the right is three buildings. The building furthest away is white, the second is a red brick town hall and the closest is a building made of white and red brick.Getty Images

Wilmington is a city in the state of Delaware

Just days ahead of the election, when America decides between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, the sign states: ‘Hate never solves problems. It creates them.’

There seems little doubt that those words are a nod towards how politically divisive the last few months have been.

It has even had an impact within the congregation here.

“We have had family members who have disowned each other because they are on the other side,” says Kathy.

“I have a sister-in-law who I will not talk to, because if I call her we end up shouting and I just hang up on her.”

Limestone Presbyterian Church has a red brick exterior with white windows and a black roof. In front of the building is a blue and white sign with the churches' name on it. Beneath that is the electronic sign which contains a message.

Limestone Presbyterian Church is located in Wilmington

Last year Limestone Presbyterian helped to host Christian teenagers from Northern Ireland as part of a cross-community initiative.

The pastor of the church says those visits gave him some optimism that America’s divisions could be overcome.

“What I found interesting was the history of the Ulster Project,” says Reverend Tim Bostick.

“Of how it grew out of the Catholic and Protestant challenges that Northern Ireland had gone through.

“And learning to appreciate and respect each other through our differences.

“We need more of that!”

Pastor Tim Bostick smiling at the camera, he has dark brown hair and is wearing glasses. He is wearing a checked shirt and is holding a bible.

Reverend Tim Bostick said Northern Ireland gave him some optimism that America’s divisions could be overcome

But in the centre of Wilmington, outside the railroad station named after Joseph R Biden Jr. it was clear that not everyone agreed.

One Trump supporter told me that America was a worse place now because of Biden.

And when I asked him what his presidency would be remembered for, he said two words: “His senility.”

The Charcoal Pit diner is brown with windows along the brown, a sign pokes out from the top of the building with the restaurants name on it in large white bubble writing. The image is taken from the car park where a disability space is seen and a yellow 'no parking' area is highlighted.

One of Biden’s favourite places to eat is the Charcoal Pit diner

Generally though I found a fondness for the outgoing President who is a familiar figure in the city.

One of his favourite places to eat is the Charcoal Pit diner.

Inside the 1950s-themed restaurant there are pictures of visits by both Biden and the man he served as vice-president Barack Obama.

While understandably he has been a less regular visitor during the last four years, the diner’s staff say he still gets food to take out when he’s in Delaware.

‘He talks like he’s known you forever’

On a grey wall there are three images in a black frame. One is of Biden at the diner and the other two are of Barack Obama sitting and kneeling next to a diner table speaking to customers.

The diner has pictures of visits by both Joe Biden and Barack Obama

“He eats cheesesteaks and cheeseburgers… And thick black and white shakes with extra ice cream,” says the chef Lupe Avilez.

“And he talks to you like he’s known you forever.”

Like their most famous regular, Lupe’s wife Mary has familial links to Ireland. And she says Biden’s love of the island is obvious even in the west wing.

“I know someone that works in a bank locally and she was in the Oval Office a week ago,” reveals Mary.

“She says that he has a rugby ball signed by all the players… And a big photo album full of pictures of everywhere he went in Ireland.

“She said it was so nice to see.”

Importance of Ireland is no longer clear

Joe Biden’s presidential visit to Ireland last year was memorable, personal and political.

The trip was a celebration of his roots but also a chance to throw his leadership weight behind political progress in Northern Ireland.

He has backed that up by encouraging trans-Atlantic investment from America through his economic envoy, Joe Kennedy III.

Securing big sums is always difficult but Biden’s pick for the role showed he was serious in trying to make it work.

Kennedy is charismatic, well-connected and part of a Democratic party dynasty with their own Irish links.

But he indicated recently on BBC Radio Ulster’s Good Morning Ulster programme that he is likely to move on when this Presidency ends in January.

Whether Kennedy will be replaced and how important Ireland (north and south) will be in the next White House is not exactly clear, no matter who wins.

Lupe Avilez and his wife Mary Redden Avilez pictured. He has black long hair and  is wearing a black chef shirt with the company logo and black chef hat. She has shoulder length light coloured hair and is wearing glasses and black t-shirt with the company logo on it.

The diner’s staff say Biden still gets food to take out from Charcoal Pit Diner when he is in Delaware

‘We need to have relationships with other countries’

Once US politicians fretted over the Irish-American vote. This election has shown how much its importance has faded into the distance, with both campaigns much more concerned about getting the likes of Black and Latino voters to the ballot box.

However, Mary Avilez believes it still matters.

“I think it is important because we need to have relationships with other countries,” she insists.

Not everyone agrees. Many commentators suggest the tone and priorities of recent debates indicate that America is looking ever inward, as it finally decides who should be its next leader.

BBC Radio Ulster’s Good Morning Ulster programme will be live from the United States from Monday 4 November until Friday 8 November with Chris bringing you all the latest news and reaction in the presidential election.



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