{"id":26387,"date":"2025-04-05T06:31:16","date_gmt":"2025-04-05T06:31:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/we-need-to-speak-up-say-authors\/"},"modified":"2025-04-05T06:31:16","modified_gmt":"2025-04-05T06:31:16","slug":"we-need-to-speak-up-say-authors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/we-need-to-speak-up-say-authors\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;We need to speak up&#8217;, say authors"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div xmlns:default=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" id=\"\">\n<div xmlns:default=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" data-component=\"byline-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<div data-testid=\"byline-new\" class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-0 haItSe\">\n<div data-testid=\"byline-new-contributors\" class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-12 fcCDwR\">\n<div class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-5 evAEAB\">\n<div><span class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-7 kItaYD\">Andrew Rogers<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>BBC Newsbeat<!-- --><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/b6d8\/live\/8e2d6b40-0a2e-11f0-99ca-0fb0741d66d7.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Jack Strange A man with short black hair and stubble smiles at the camera while wearing a beige hoodie. He's holding a book titled 'Look Up Handsome'\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 hesJxn\">Jack Strange<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 iUqqeb\">Jack landed his dream publishing deal last year but found his self-published works had been scraped<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Landing a publishing deal was a dream come true for Jack Strange.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;It was incredible. I&#8217;d had so many rejections along the way,&#8221; he says.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;So when someone said yes, I cried because it&#8217;s everything I ever wanted.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Before Jack published debut novel Look Up, Handsome, he&#8217;d written other, self-published titles.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">But he felt an entirely different emotion when he found out that those works had appeared on LibGen &#8211; a so-called &#8220;shadow library&#8221; containing millions of books and academic papers taken without permission.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/technology\/archive\/2025\/03\/search-libgen-data-set\/682094\/\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 beIoQm\">An investigation by The Atlantic magazine<!-- --><\/a> revealed Meta may have accessed millions of pirated books and research papers through LibGen &#8211; Library Genesis &#8211; to train its generative AI (Gen-AI) system, Llama.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Now author groups across the UK and around the world are organising campaigns to encourage governments to intervene.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Meta, which owns Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp, is currently defending a court case brought by multiple authors over the use of their work. <!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 DkKTF\">&#8216;More difficult with AI coming in&#8217;<!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Llama is a large language model, or LLM, similar to Open AI&#8217;s ChatGPT and Google&#8217;s Gemini.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">The systems are fed huge amounts of data and trained to spot patterns within it. They use this data to create passages of text by predicting the next word in a sequence.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Despite the systems being labelled intelligent, critics argue LLMs do not &#8220;think&#8221;,  have no understanding of what they produce and can confidently present errors as fact.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Tech companies argue that they need more data to make the systems more reliable, but authors, artists and other creatives say they should pay for the privilege.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">A Meta spokesperson told BBC Newsbeat it had &#8220;developed transformational GenAI powering incredible innovation, productivity and creativity for individuals and companies&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">They added that &#8220;fair use of copyrighted materials is vital to this&#8221;, and that the company wants to develop AI that benefits everyone.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">As well as concerns over copyright and accuracy, AI systems <!-- --><a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/c51yvz51k2xo\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 beIoQm\">are also power-hungry<!-- --><\/a>, prompting environmental fears, and worries they could threaten jobs.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><h2 class=\"sc-518485e5-0 DkKTF\">Facing down a trillion dollar company <!-- --><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">While Jack&#8217;s debut novel wasn&#8217;t part of the LibGen dataset, he did find some of his self-published books had been taken.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">He says he wasn&#8217;t surprised because he&#8217;d seen so many fellow authors affected, but that it did spur him on to want to do something about it.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;There&#8217;s always something you can do. You can&#8217;t just say &#8216;oh well&#8217;. You&#8217;ve got to speak up and fight back,&#8221; he tells BBC Newsbeat.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Meta says open source AI like Llama will<!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/about.fb.com\/news\/2024\/07\/open-source-ai-is-the-path-forward\/\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 beIoQm\"> &#8220;increase human productivity, creativity, and quality of life&#8221;<!-- --><\/a>. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">But Jack says it poses a real risk to creatives like him.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;It&#8217;s annoying that the first thing AI comes for are creative jobs that bring you joy. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;We&#8217;re so undervalued already, and we&#8217;re even more undervalued now with AI coming in.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Jack says going up against a company like Meta, which is worth more than a trillion dollars, doesn&#8217;t feel like a fight he can take on alone.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;How much control can you take back when your work has already been taken?<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;How do we live with that and how do we get protected from that?&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 cOpVbP hide-when-no-script\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/7119\/live\/80ad9cd0-0bd0-11f0-af58-ad3b17745e6c.jpg.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Getty Images Generic image of a woman on her smart phone outside a Meta office. The Meta logo is in large font on a plywood wall and the woman has long ginger hair and wears a cropped denim shirt over a white T-shirt. \" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"\/><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 hesJxn\">Getty Images<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 iUqqeb\">Meta says it wants to develop AI for everyone&#8217;s benefit<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">He&#8217;s one of a growing number of writers calling on the government to intervene, with a demonstration planned on Thursday near Meta&#8217;s London office, as well as action online.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Abie Longstaff works at the Society of Authors, a union representing writers, illustrators and translators, and tells Newsbeat they have been raising concerns about the risks of AI for years.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;We all feel that level of helplessness,&#8221; she says. &#8220;But we&#8217;re all fighting so hard.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">She says her work has also been stolen and used to train AI, something she believes has an impact on future publishing opportunities.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;Large language models work by prediction, they work by looking at patterns. They want our voice, they want our expression, they want our style. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;So you can as a normal person go onto one of these sites and say &#8216;please can you write me a book in the style of Abie Longstaff&#8217; and they&#8217;ll write it in my style, in my voice.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Because their works have been scraped though, writers won&#8217;t get any compensation or recognition if it&#8217;s used this way.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;We want to see compensation, we want to see that it&#8217;s more transparent,&#8221; Abie says.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;The company has taken our books and used it to make money. It has money, but instead of paying us for our intellectual property instead of licensing a word, it&#8217;s taking it all for free.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">The Society of Authors as well as other unions like the Writers&#8217; Guild are encouraging writers to get in touch with their MPs to raise their concerns in government.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">In December, <!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/government\/consultations\/copyright-and-artificial-intelligence\/copyright-and-artificial-intelligence\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 beIoQm\">the government shared a consultation<!-- --><\/a> in a bid to navigate the issue between copyright holders being in control and paid for their work and AI companies having &#8220;wide and lawful access to high-quality data&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">One proposal was giving tech companies automatic access to works such as books, films and TV shows to train AI models unless creators opted out.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">But Abie thinks that&#8217;s the wrong way round.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;It&#8217;s like saying you&#8217;ve got to put a note on your wallet saying no-one steal it,&#8221; she says. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;It should be the AI companies asking us if they can use our work.&#8221; <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">Writing is something Jack had always dreamed of doing &#8211; and still does, despite the challenges he&#8217;s currently facing.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fezwLZ\">&#8220;It&#8217;s still my dream to be an author and hopefully write full time. It&#8217;s incredibly difficult now, it&#8217;s going to be more difficult with AI coming in.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 gfTVSf\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 cOpVbP hide-when-no-script\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/10c4\/live\/bd3d20b0-0bc8-11f0-b234-07dc7691c360.jpg.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"A footer logo for BBC Newsbeat. 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