{"id":10754,"date":"2024-09-10T12:09:10","date_gmt":"2024-09-10T12:09:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/dad-says-he-underestimated-daughters-mental-health\/"},"modified":"2024-09-10T12:09:10","modified_gmt":"2024-09-10T12:09:10","slug":"dad-says-he-underestimated-daughters-mental-health","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/dad-says-he-underestimated-daughters-mental-health\/","title":{"rendered":"Dad says he underestimated daughter&#8217;s mental health"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-814e9212-1 fcEyBx\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/3f52\/live\/426eb8f0-6ea0-11ef-aae5-a7098ec0dd1c.jpg.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"Cordelia Ostler Rhiannon has brown, tied back hair and is wearing a black leather coat and white blouse. She is turned to the camera and is smiling. Behind her are a row of houses in Edinburgh where she was studying at university.\" class=\"sc-814e9212-0 hIXOPW\"\/><span class=\"sc-814e9212-2 jesyMJ\">Cordelia Ostler<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Rhiannon Williams had been receiving counselling for depression and anxiety<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A father has said his 24-year-old daughter\u2019s suicide hit him like a &#8220;depth charge&#8221; which &#8220;shred things in ways that are difficult to describe&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">One year on from Rhiannon\u2019s death, Gareth Williams wants other parents to know how &#8220;seriously dangerous&#8221; poor mental health can be.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The latest figures show the suicide rate in Wales in 2023 was the highest for a decade, with an average of about one every day.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Mr Williams&#8217; comments come as a Welsh government-backed service is rolled out across Wales to support those affected by suicide.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Mental health warning after daughter&#8217;s suicide<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Mr Williams said he had hoped Rhiannon\u2019s anxiety and depression were something  time, counselling and GP support could heal, but said it was something he had &#8220;completely underestimated&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;When you\u2019re living with somebody you don\u2019t notice these incremental changes. One of our regrets is why didn\u2019t we see this?&#8221; said the 60-year-old solicitor from Swansea.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;People say &#8216;it\u2019s not your fault&#8217; but you\u2019re always going to carry that as a parent.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-814e9212-1 fcEyBx\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-814e9212-0 cCvKR hide-when-no-script\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/7dbb\/live\/06d74b50-6e95-11ef-84a5-7f81c09ec94f.jpg.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Gareth Williams Rhiannon has long dark hair and is wearing a patterned white top and sunglasses. She is sat next to the family's black labrador, Jet, near Langland in the summer of 2022.\" class=\"sc-814e9212-0 hIXOPW\"\/><span class=\"sc-814e9212-2 jesyMJ\">Gareth Williams<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Rhiannon&#8217;s family has been supported by the Jac Lewis Foundation since her death last year<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Rhiannon had been studying for a master&#8217;s degree in creative writing in London \u2013 she had always been a high achiever and had won multiple awards and prizes for her writing \u2013 but her parents said she left London abruptly to move back home.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">She was getting professional support for her mental health but her family had noticed a deterioration in the months before her death.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">However, Mr Williams and his wife Rachael only later discovered the notes in Rhiannon\u2019s private diaries referencing online sites she had used to meticulously plan taking her own life.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">It is an avenue that is still being investigated ahead of a future inquest, but has left Mr Williams concerned even his daughter\u2019s bedroom could be &#8220;a dangerous place&#8221; where her parents were powerless to control what their adult daughter was doing online.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The couple and Rhiannon\u2019s two younger brothers were offered support by the <!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/nationaladvisoryandliaisonservice.wales\/\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">Jac Lewis Foundation<!-- --><\/a>, a charity which has been commissioned by Welsh government to host the new national advice service.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Mr Williams explained the counselling helped with &#8220;the feelings of guilt that I think are probably stronger for this kind of bereavement than others&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I call it a depth charge, because it\u2019s very private &#8211; like it\u2019s below the water.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;But you just have to re-build and look at the positives. As parents we\u2019re very conscious that we have to make sure our two sons know that life goes on.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-814e9212-1 fcEyBx\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/bbcx\/grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-814e9212-0 cCvKR hide-when-no-script\"\/><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 240w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 320w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 480w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 640w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 800w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 1024w,https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/e1e4\/live\/45682300-6ec5-11ef-b253-652912eb2430.jpg.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Gwyn has short, brown hair and is wearing a checked blazer and blue shirt. He is sat in the offices of the Jac Lewis Foundation.\" class=\"sc-814e9212-0 hIXOPW\"\/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><figcaption class=\"sc-8353772e-0 cvNhQw\">Gwyn Augustus said counselling can be available immediately, or even years after someone is affected by suicide<!-- --><\/figcaption><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Gwyn Augustus is lead liaison officer for the new <!-- --><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/nationaladvisoryandliaisonservice.wales\/\" class=\"sc-c9299ecf-0 bZUiKB\" rel=\"noopener\">national advisory liaison service<!-- --><\/a> and said from each suicide they typically collect between six and 10 referrals for individuals who may need support.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Immediate, free counselling is available when required, as well as play therapy for children &#8211; as research has shown adults bereaved by suicide are at higher risk of attempting suicide themselves.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;If we can save one life over the term of the project it would be worth it, but to date I\u2019m sure we\u2019ve already done that,&#8221; said Mr Augustus.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;It\u2019s been mentioned many a time that we\u2019ve contacted people at their most upset and they\u2019re considering undertaking something themselves.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;To be able to step in during those sensitive times is vital for their wellbeing.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Scott Lever facilitates some of the group sessions run by the Jac Lewis Foundation in Swansea. He became a counsellor after losing his own father to suicide in 2014.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;There&#8217;s so much stigma around suicide that people don&#8217;t really talk about it &#8211; people don&#8217;t know how to talk about it, and that can create barriers to accessing support too,&#8221; he said. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;But in the group sessions you can see people almost &#8216;decompress&#8217; when they realise other people are going through similar feelings and experiences.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He said having that level of &#8220;authenticity&#8221; in the room can help people &#8220;really offload&#8221; what they are truly feeling. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;Seeing how this service is changing the way people are supported&#8230; I&#8217;m proud to be part of that because it&#8217;s something I recognise I really needed at the time too.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--$!--><!--\/$--><\/p>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The suicide rate was highest for men in their late 40s and for women in their early 50s.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The Welsh government is due to launch its refreshed suicide prevention and self-harm strategy by the end of the year.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Since its launch in December 2022, the NHS Wales 111 press 2 service, which offers immediate mental health support, has taken more than 116,000 calls.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Minister for mental health and early years, Sarah Murphy, said the growing rate of suicide in Wales needs to come down and said prevention was key.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;Hearing that children as young as four are getting counselling for as long as they need \u2013 play and music therapy \u2013 I think that\u2019s also a huge part in breaking that trauma cycle,&#8221; she said. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;We want to ensure all those who are affected receive timely, compassionate and effective support where and when they need it.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;Through the ongoing development and implementation of our suicide and self-harm prevention strategy we will explore what more can be done to prevent suicide in Wales.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\"><i id=\"need-help?-if-you-have-been-affected-by-this-story-the\" class=\"sc-7dcfb11b-0 kKcaog\">Need help? 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One year on from Rhiannon\u2019s death, Gareth Williams wants other parents to know how &#8220;seriously dangerous&#8221; poor mental health [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10755,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[64],"tags":[291,5200,2030,2029,5199],"class_list":["post-10754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-health","tag-dad","tag-daughters","tag-health","tag-mental","tag-underestimated"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10754"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10754\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10756,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10754\/revisions\/10756"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10755"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/news.godj.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}